X-Ftn-To: Tracy Miller 

tracym@pipeline.com (Tracy Miller) wrote:
>>I might do that, _when_ I sense receptiveness on the other side. I'm
>>not Jehova's Witness, you know, I don't force truth down people's
>>throats. For instance, when you started writing about having problems
>>with raising Kundalini, I suggested that trying the techniques on my
>>web might be useful. If you did try the basic meditation, for
>>instance, you would learn more about raising Kundalini than would be
>>possible through any amount of explanation. Since you're attempting to
>>control and rape Kundalini, I figured that you'll probably mess
>>yourself up thoroughly and that you'll have only yourself to blame. 
>
>Danijel,  I don't get the impression that Lars is trying to control
>and rape Kundalini.  

:) That just says that your insight isn't very deep.

>>If you, for instance, wanted to surrender to God completely, and love
>>him with all your being, your Kundalini would immediately be awakened
>>and raised without any problem whatsoever - simply because surrender
>>to God is the spiritual equivalent of the ascent of Kundalini from
>>mulaadhara to brahmarandra. 
>
>I think it involves a little more than "surrendering to God"; it also
>involves some knowledge and practice of techniques.  If what you say
>is true, ie, surrendering alone awakens kundalini, then Kundalini
>awakening would be a lot more common among Christians.  

Find me a Christian who has surrendered to God (God, not some idea or
dogma) and I'll show you a Kundalini-awakened person. But,
Kundalini-awakening isn't enough, and one does need the techniques in
order to purify and develop his energetic bodies. Since I have
experience with that, I can recognize many Christian techniques as
Kundalini-based. I admit that their understanding of the process is
shallow, but surrender/remorse attitude is the next best thing to
up-stream kriya. Unfortunately, it has a limited effect, and is much
slower, so you need years and decades instead of days and months,
which can be very troublesome. 

>>But I guess that you're not into
>>surrender, you'd like to be in charge, your own boss, in control of
>>things. You don't need to surrender to the higher reality, you already
>>know what you want, and now you just need to find a way to harness
>>energy for it. Good luck, you're gonna need plenty of it.
>
>Why don't you ask him instead of guess and assume?  

:)

>>But, since I'm in a good mood today, I'll share something with you:
>>awareness and control in the process of Kundalini ascent are fatal.
>
>That could be a slightly extreme statement.  

Well, let's do it this way: you guide people your way, I'll guide them
my way, and we'll see whose students are better off, OK?
It's not extreme at all; attempts of control are the very reason why
Kundalini has such a bad reputation - that it's dangerous, that you
can go insane or become ill, etc. But control seems to be some sort of
a mantra for egomaniacs: "Control, yes, give us more!" With Kundalini,
you don't need control. You need surrender. There's nothing to
control. There is no danger, no enemy. Visualizing hissing serpents,
whacking them on the head and forcing them up the spine might be a
very "male hero" type of yoga, like, you're in charge, you're in
control, you're in a lunatic asylum...

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