nirvanablue@my-deja.com wrote:
>And remember, the impotent people have not given anything to the world.
>They don't have any creative energy. Your sexual energy is your
>creativity.
>The impotent person is a hollow bamboo, nothing inside. He somehow drags
>on, but he is not living. He cannot live, he has no energy for living.
>He is condemned from his very birth. Only these people can be monks,
>nuns authentically. If others who are full of life and energy become
>celibate, they will be destroyed fighting with themselves. They will
>destroy themselves fighting with their nature, and they can never be
>victorious. Nature is far bigger than you. 

Cheers! :* :)) Man, you really are a refreshment, you, Jagat and
Ananda, this group otherwise looks like a lunatic assylum full of
frustrated, angry men who spit all over each other out of their
helpless efforts to follow a false teaching which opposes the nature
and God. I'll quote something from my yet unpublished (and also
unlectured:) book:
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...
When we speak on spirituality and sex, a question of celibacy
naturally arises. The celibacy is one of the answers that the people
came up with, trying to figure out a way to regulate their sexuality,
when they concluded that the simplest solution is to simply forget
about sex altogether, and to declare it undesired.
There are, of course, two possible ways to achieve this. One way is
obvious: the spirit is so involved with the higher states, that the
question of sex never arises, because sex is not an addition or a
positive factor in these states, but on the contrary it represents an
obstacle and a fall, so the desires will naturally be oriented towards
the higher spiritual states and away from sex. 
The other way to achieve the celibacy is the repression: the desire
for sex exists, in one form or another, but it is repressed and
proclaimed undesired or sinful, and the consciousness is somehow
coerced to move in directions that are regarded as more socially or
religiously acceptable. It is clear, from this very analysis, that the
first form of celibacy will function perfectly because it is natural
and spontaneous, no voluntary effort is involved into its realization
and maintenance, while the other form of celibacy is unnatural, it is
made against the natural alignment of the system and as such it is
bound to produce one sort of problems or another.
There is a quite simple way to determine the type of celibacy that we
are dealing with; we just need to see if the thoughts of sex occur in
the mind of the practitioner. If the answer is positive, then we are
dealing with the second, forced form of celibacy. If we are dealing
with the natural celibacy, the question of sex will never even arise,
it will not be thought of, in neither positive nor negative context,
the consciousness simply doesn't dwell on sex but on something else,
and then the absence of the sexual practice is simply a natural
consequence of such an orientation of spirit. The fact is, however,
that the configuration of the energetic system that is needed for
proper functioning in today's society needs to use the energetic
layers that are below such states, that do not possess the inner
qualities of utmost fulfillment and self-reliance of the spirit, so
that the needs for sex, food, air and other will remain, and the only
question that arises is whether they will be satisfied in a way in
which they will not represent a problem but a possible assistance, or
are we going to deny or repress them, and thus accept the risks
consequential to such an attitude. There is a positive correlation
between the need of sex, the need of food and the need of air. When
the state of spirit is high enough for sex to represent an energetic
fall, instead of a raise, then also the breathing and the intake of
food represent an energetic fall, so they are spontaneously stopped.
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(Copyright (C) 1999. Danijel Turina, All rights reserved.)

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