Autor: dturina@geocities.com (Danijel Turina)
Datum: 1999-12-01 15:01:34
Grupe: alt.religion.vaisnava
Tema: Re: Southern Baptists
Linija: 121
Message-ID: 384f28a0.16714636@news.tel.hr

"Ron & Keli Conroy"  wrote:
>Your actually saying the vedas support rasing baby calf for veal & slaughter
>& eating of beef !!

Not only vedas, but the Bible as well:

The LORD called to Moses and spoke to him from the Tent of Meeting. He
said, "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: `When any of you
brings an offering to the LORD, bring as your offering an animal from
either the herd or the flock. "`If the offering is a burnt offering
from the herd, he is to offer a male without defect. He must present
it at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting so that it [1] will be
acceptable to the LORD. 
(Lev 1)

The LORD said to Moses and Aaron,
"Say to the Israelites: `Of all the animals that live on land, these
are the ones you may eat: 
You may eat any animal that has a split hoof completely divided and
that chews the cud. 
"`There are some that only chew the cud or only have a split hoof, but
you must not eat them. The camel, though it chews the cud, does not
have a split hoof; it is ceremonially unclean for you. 
The coney, [1] though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it
is unclean for you. 
The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is
unclean for you. 
And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not
chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 
You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean
for you. 
"`Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the
streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales. 
But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and
scales--whether among all the swarming things or among all the other
living creatures in the water--you are to detest. 
And since you are to detest them, you must not eat their meat and you
must detest their carcasses. 
Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to
be detestable to you. 
"`These are the birds you are to detest and not eat because they are
detestable: the eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, 
the red kite, any kind of black kite, 
any kind of raven, 
the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, 
the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, 
the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, 
the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. [2] 
"`All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to
you. 
There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that
you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. 
Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or
grasshopper. 
But all other winged creatures that have four legs you are to detest. 
"`You will make yourselves unclean by these; whoever touches their
carcasses will be unclean till evening. 
Whoever picks up one of their carcasses must wash his clothes, and he
will be unclean till evening. 
"`Every animal that has a split hoof not completely divided or that
does not chew the cud is unclean for you; whoever touches [the carcass
of] any of them will be unclean. 
Of all the animals that walk on all fours, those that walk on their
paws are unclean for you; whoever touches their carcasses will be
unclean till evening. 
Anyone who picks up their carcasses must wash his clothes, and he will
be unclean till evening. They are unclean for you. 
"`Of the animals that move about on the ground, these are unclean for
you: the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard, 
the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the
chameleon. 
Of all those that move along the ground, these are unclean for you.
Whoever touches them when they are dead will be unclean till evening. 
When one of them dies and falls on something, that article, whatever
its use, will be unclean, whether it is made of wood, cloth, hide or
sackcloth. Put it in water; it will be unclean till evening, and then
it will be clean. 
If one of them falls into a clay pot, everything in it will be
unclean, and you must break the pot. 
Any food that could be eaten but has water on it from such a pot is
unclean, and any liquid that could be drunk from it is unclean. 
Anything that one of their carcasses falls on becomes unclean; an oven
or cooking pot must be broken up. They are unclean, and you are to
regard them as unclean. 
A spring, however, or a cistern for collecting water remains clean,
but anyone who touches one of these carcasses is unclean. 
If a carcass falls on any seeds that are to be planted, they remain
clean. 
But if water has been put on the seed and a carcass falls on it, it is
unclean for you. 
"`If an animal that you are allowed to eat dies, anyone who touches
the carcass will be unclean till evening. 
Anyone who eats some of the carcass must wash his clothes, and he will
be unclean till evening. Anyone who picks up the carcass must wash his
clothes, and he will be unclean till evening. 
"`Every creature that moves about on the ground is detestable; it is
not to be eaten. 
You are not to eat any creature that moves about on the ground,
whether it moves on its belly or walks on all fours or on many feet;
it is detestable. 
Do not defile yourselves by any of these creatures. Do not make
yourselves unclean by means of them or be made unclean by them. 
I am the LORD your God; consecrate yourselves and be holy, because I
am holy. Do not make yourselves unclean by any creature that moves
about on the ground. 
I am the LORD who brought you up out of Egypt to be your God;
therefore be holy, because I am holy. 
"`These are the regulations concerning animals, birds, every living
thing that moves in the water and every creature that moves about on
the ground. 
You must distinguish between the unclean and the clean, between living
creatures that may be eaten and those that may not be eaten.'" 
(Lev 11)
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Of course, I personally think that the Old Testament is utter nonsense
and I don't accept it as a holy scripture, but since you are so fond
of the scriptures, I might as well provide the quotes. :)

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