X-Ftn-To: Marcus E Engdahl 

mengdahl@cc.hut.fi (Marcus E Engdahl) wrote:
>>mengdahl@cc.hut.fi (Marcus E Engdahl) wrote:
>>>I'd like to hear your opinion about experiences and feelings ans how much we
>>>should trust them.
>
>>It's very simple, actually. If the nature of the experience is such,
>>that it allows doubt, then doubt it, because it deserves nothing
>>better. But, some things are beyond doubt.
>
>But you should realize that experiences as such are never beyond doubt. In
>psychotic states people often believe in very strange things beyond any doubt
>(God is often a part of these beliefs). If you feel something to be true beyond
>doubt, it still might be untrue.

This is a pointless discussion. You don't know what I'm talking about,
and you still express opinions on it. Just think about it, for a
second. Your senses and your mind provide you with a picture of
reality, yes? The senses respond to the reality and provide the mind
with information, and then mind comes up to conclusions regarding
what's outside, yes? It's OK to be skeptical because either the senses
or the mind can trick you, yes?

But, in genuine spiritual experience, you get _direct_ insight of the
reality. You are _there_, and you are _it_. There is no perception,
just reality. There's nothing to be skeptical about, because there's
nothing but the truth. There's not even the process of knowing it.
Of course, when you get out of that state, it pays to be skeptical
about your interpretations of it, and this is where most folks goof
up.

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