X-Ftn-To: quibbler 

quibbler  wrote:
>And you can't accept the non-existence of god as a pre-existing condition.

I can, but then there is suddenly no existence and possibility of
existence, and since we observe our own existence, this doesn't hold
water.

>I believe that a small set of impersonal

Whatever it is, it is not impersonal. Rather, it is more personal than
you and me, because it right now creates our personalities.

>Normally the universe is defined as the sum total of everything that exists.

Normally, the universe is defined as the physical universe.

>> The God
>> that you believe in doesn't exist. A much better one does exist.
>
>I have heard this line many times.  But this supposed better 
>definition is never forthcoming.

You have an advantage over everybody. You can choose to disbelieve
much more than anybody could possibly explain. So, you can always win
every argument. If that pleases you, oh well.

>Umm.  No.  Not there.  Try the expanding singularity.

Oh, the one without time, and therefore without space, and therefore
without matter, and therefore without any aspect of physical
existence?

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