Autor: Danijel Turina
Datum: 2001-06-05 12:59:22
Grupe: alt.talk.creationism,alt.philosophy.debate,alt.politics.religion,alt.philos
Tema: Re: Messrs JENSEN support Hammond's SPOG
Linija: 128
Message-ID: bpcphtsqb3j02612jbvr5ut2t212qhpvic@4ax.com

X-Ftn-To: George Hammond 

George Hammond  wrote:
>                   CURVATURE FAQ
>
>             Why does the Curvature of
>             Psychometry space = God?
>
>         Brain growth is suspected to be God by virtue
>       of it's proven effect on perceptual reality,
>       particularly in Mental Retardation, IQ and
>       Personality.  It is capable of explaining a
>       "supernatural power" and "miracles".

Unproven, irrelevant assumptions.
Brain growth probably has an effect on perception of the reality and
IQ. This can probably be proved. Also, cerebral defects cause mental
retardation and psychological disorders. This proves that the brain
serves the purpose of knowing the reality, and the better the brain,
the better the knowledge of reality. Hardly a discovery, because we
already knew that people are more intelligent and capable than frogs
and fish, and that it is due to the more evolved and bigger brain.
However, it explains none of the supernatural powers and miracles. A
miracle is, by Catholic definition, any intervention in the
functioning of the natural laws. You have to prove that the physical
reality can be altered in any way by the brain; so far, you only
proved that the brain can alter the subjective reality, which is a
meaningless conclusion, because everybody knows it.

>         Next, it is discovered in Psychometry that
>       there is a 4x4 psychometry metric caused by
>       the geometry of the brain 

Basically, they discovered that the shape of the brain is relevant;
the probable reason for that is the greater relative importance of
some parts of the brain in the matters of intelligence as measured on
the tests.

>       (wch in turn is
>       caused by spacetime geometry).  

This is an unproved assumption. Spacetime geometry is affected by the
presence of mass. Any mass, including the brain, distorts timespace.
However, a piece of lead, of the same volume, affects the timespace
curvature more than the brain. In order to create a significant
bending, one would need to have really significant mass; even tons of
matter wouldn't produce much effect; you need at least the asteroids
in order to measure any visible gravitational effect.
Causal relationship between timespace and brain geometry is
impossible, because the human body evolved in an isotropic
gravitational field, which did in fact favor the evolution of certain
bodily form, but the only thing that the brain has to do with gravity
is the sensor in the central ear (shit, all of my scientific
terminology is in Croatian and I have problems with translating my
thoughts). 
Basically, your theory is crap.

>       This causes there
>       "axiomatically" to be a single final Eigenvector
>       in all of Psychology, caused mathematically by the
>       curvature of the 4x4 metric.  

I would need an expert to interpret this; but, since the rest of the
theory doesn't hold water, even if this is 100% true, which I honestly
doubt, judging on the parts that I could understand, the theory as a
whole would still be utterly false.

>       Biologically, it
>       is easy to show that the cause of this eigenvector
>       is brain growth discussed above, particularly the
>       Secular Trend (historical) increase in brain growth
>       in the population, therby explaining the theological
>       notion of "human progress" and the goal of reaching
>       the "Kingdom of God" on Earth... e.g. the plateau
>       of the sigmoidal Secular Trend Curve.

This, however, basically says that we are evolving (which is obvious)
and that you assume that there is a limit to our growth (which isn't
proved in any way). However, it has nothing to do with any religious
concept.

>         These two facts (paragraph 1 and 2) taken together
>       combine to prove to beyond a reasonable doubt, that the
>       single (4th order) higher order eigenvector is in fact a
>       direct measure of "God", 

Actually, it doesn't prove anything, as I have demonstrated. Your
stuff proves that the size and the shape of the brain are relevant to
our perception of the reality, which is obvious, and the rest is just
crap.

>       and since the psychometric
>       curvature that cause it is caused by real curvature
>       in space-time, that God is caused by Gravity.

This is a totally idiotic assumption. You want to say that there is a
curvature in the brain, and that there is a curvature in the space,
and that this means anything? You obviously should have studied logic,
not being born an "average man" to whom logical skills are "like
walking". :)
If you told this to my highschool professor of logic, you would still
be in highschool, because you are basically saying that:

The roads are not straight.
There are people who are not straight.
--
Ergo some people are roads.

:)))

Or: 

The timespace is bent by mass, which causes gravity.
The shape and size of the brain affect intelligence, on average.
--
Ergo there is God.

:)))))))))


>          Hence we have a rigorous hard scientific explanation
>       and proof of the existence of GOD.  
>          QED, HAMMOND, 2001

Yes, quid erat defecatum.

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