CAMPBELLJD@webtv.net (J.D. Campbell) wrote:
>Thank you D.T. your very correct my writing is rather poor but the
>message is very easy to see. Also i am trying to communicate with V.V.
>who seems to understand this style better.
>
>As you know we all place little value on words as not reflective of the
>experience. Writing to me is just words and often times i purposely
>remove myself so someone can elevate themself into the piece. I dont
>accept any money at all from seekers and this is another method to
>prevent any form of devotion. But the message is very easy to see in
>these short pieces ..........JD

Oh I see, so what you're saying is that if people practice yoga, they
get to talk in inconsistent fits of logoreia, and it's all OK because
if they sound smart, they could initiate a personality cult? ;)) 

First of all, a tree shall be known by its fruits. Therefore every
action speaks of the personality behind it, and the structure of the
personality is very much a reflection of the spiritual status. The
doer is reflected in his deeds. Any discrepancy between the thoughts,
words and actions signifies a problem. So, there is in fact a great
connection between experience and words, for experience of greatness
seeks forms of expression, and words are not the least important of
those forms. 
Compassion of an enlightened Master for his fellow men causes a flow
of helpful actions. His words are clear and they hit the core of the
problem, providing a solution. If they are unclear, they are not so
because of his inability to think and express himself clearly, but
because of people's inability to understand his depth. 
Do we "all" still "place little value on words as not reflective of
the experience"? If so, why talk at all, then? Reflect upon the
experience, or whatever, instead. There are countless writers, poets
and composers who praise the infinite source of all things, with words
and song and high praise of their hearts. A clear reflection of their
experience can be seen in their words and thoughts, for they are
clear, pure, bright and magnificent. What do we have minds for, if we
cannot think clearly? Why do we have the ability to express ourselves,
if we cannot do it in a way, that would honor our maker?
Stupidity isn't enlightenment, and lack of ability isn't a symptom of
the mind that has transcended the world; open Bhagavad-gita and remind
yourself of that. Deeds deprived of greatness aren't founded in
Brahman, they are founded in the lowest mode of nature, tamas, a force
of laziness and ignorance. A confusion of thoughts and words is not a
result of enlightenment too great to speak of; for there indeed were
those who spoke of the Highest with the greatest of eloquence.
Confusion is only a sign of a deluded mind, filled with ignorance and
lacking realization. 

You remove yourself in order for someone else to elevate oneself? How
modest and humble you must be... You lack humility as much as you lack
greatness. You are all over this newsgroup and you have an opinion on
everything, and yet you couldn't make two clear sentences in all the
time that I read this group, and that's more than a year. But I guess
that everything's OK, for you don't take money, so you're not really
just another one of those fake con artist gurus, are you? For taking
money seems to be the criterion, and not competence. As far as I'm
concerned, take all the money in the world and put yourself on top of
it, but be worthy of it, shine brightly and clearly for all to see and
admire. Make yourself into an example worth following.

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