Autor: Danijel Turina
Datum: 2001-05-13 11:39:24
Grupe: alt.yoga
Tema: Re: Cure for ugliness
Linija: 101
Message-ID: hfisftg13slval0dhuho549vn6781luaa1@4ax.com

X-Ftn-To: alesclandre 

alesclandre@yahoo.com (alesclandre) wrote:

>If only you realized that you are responsible for the ugliness you create.
>I feel that your posts sometimes are very aggresive and indeed ugly, 
>so you should not be surprised to see that aggressiveness reverberated 
>back to you.

In my writing, I attack falsehood and ignorance. Sometimes, people
understand this and then they can really make serious progress.
Unfortunately, wise people like them are a minority, and it is much
easier to kill the messenger than to act on the message.

I'm actually much kinder than I should be, and even _that_ hurts the
egomaniacs. 
The facts are that most people who seem to indulge in some sort of
spiritual practice happen to delude themselves in one way or another.
A large number of them are people with psychological disorders. In
fact, my experience is that real spiritual people tend to avoid
anything that has a "spiritual" label, exactly because of all the
disordered characters who own the "scene". The guy who said that he
met enlightened people serving hamburgers, but he never met them
teaching yoga, seems to have also noticed this situation. 

This newsgroup is a pretty good illustration of the point; there are
many guys who advertise their false gurus and false teachings, there
are ordinary folks who think yoga is good for health and who want to
learn how to stretch into a certain position, there are several
basketcases who should be kept under lock and key for public
protection, and there is an ocean of lurkers underneath, who mostly
wonder what the hell is this newsgroup all about. These are the facts
of life.

Now, when I start writing here, I have to weed through the psychos,
basketcases and false teachers, and all the time I wonder whether it's
worth it, or not. But, the likes of you are in fact a minority. On
_every_ poster comes about a hundred lurkers; this is a statistics
from some mailing lists, who have 500 subscribers and 5-10 posters,
and usenet NGs are easier to access, and therefore they must have a
bigger membership. I don't delude myself thinking that I'll help the
psychos and cult propagandists, or people who are obsessed with
advertising themselves. I have no interest in you whatsoever. But,
there is a silent majority of people who are looking for competent
advice, and unlike you, I _do_ have real value to offer them. I could
in fact give up, and not a day goes by without me considering it, but
then you, the aggressive, arrogant and ignorant, big mouths with no
substance, will provide advice and de facto own this little piece of
planet. Me not writing here would be a good thing for me, but not for
the others. 

On some other groups, in Croatia, I wrote megabytes of text,
describing things, guiding people. When I came, nobody knew me. On the
hr.fido.religija newsgroup (in fact a fido conference), one person had
some practical experience in the sphere of religion, and others knew
just theory. After four years of my participation, a huge part of the
newsgroup now consists of advanced yogic practitioners. One would
think that such results, obvious and beyond question, are enough to
prevent me from having to listen to people similar to yourself, who
think that the very fact that you don't like me proves that I must be
a deluded fake. In fact, the majority of the newsgroup's traffic is
made purely of such writings. Why? Because my students practice yoga,
they do kriya and work on themselves. They are a majority of NG
subscribers, the majority that _knows_. But, because of that
knowledge, they are utterly unmotivated to reply to obviously false
statements; they might laugh when they remember who they know me to
be, and how some people perceive me. It makes me laugh, too, but I
also feel pain because I understand that I'm surrounded with
ignorance, madness and aggression, which are the qualities of hell,
and it makes me miss all the things that I gave up in order to be
writing in such places. But, it's the sick ones who need a doctor, not
the healthy ones.
You will never know the sadness that I feel when I see your ignorance
and delusion, and if you had any idea about it, I'm afraid that you
could never again live with yourself. It would be more comfortable for
you to remain deluded, because you could remain living in a world
known to you, even if it is empty and false. But, I hope that this
will not last, because facing the truth might be extremely painful for
you, but it will open your eyes and you could reject everything that
separates you from the reality. You would then discover things that
are now utterly unknown to you. 
I'm an optimist. I accepted students who were on the verge of being
hospitalised for madness; now, their eyes reflect God's perfection. I
worked with people who were so fucked up, that they couldn't force
themselves to cross the street at dark. Now, they make God feel proud.
The one thing common to them was their realization of their position,
and their faith in me. They were willing to listen and follow
instructions. Now, every single one of you could visit my homepage and
actually get the yogic techniques practiced by my students. This
wouldn't cost you anything, nobody would recruit you into some cult,
and those techniques are infinitely more valuable than anything you
could possibly buy anywhere. Hopefully, I feel that there are great
souls who actually did that, who have accepted the gift and _they_,
not you, are the reason why I write here. Unlike you, they don't feel
the arrogant need to teach me lessons. The majority of them is so
humble, that they in fact don't dare to contact me - but _they_ are
the ones that I _want_ contact with. Not you, the arrogant and
ignorant, deluded fakes. 

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