X-Ftn-To: quibbler 

quibbler  wrote:
>> (meaning, either change of states, or
>> velocity). No time, no quantum fluctuations, no universe.
>
>Again, you have neglected the possibility that the first fluctuation
>happens simultaneously with the emergence of time.

Exactly, because without time, there are no events, which includes the
fluctuations. Without time, nothing ever happens, and nothing can ever
happen.

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