X-Ftn-To: Jahnu 

chekitan@bahnhof.se (Jahnu) wrote:
>>Who said he practiced it? ;) This guy is a Hare Krishna, and a
>>wonderful specimen of his kind, too. Completely ruined energetic
>>system, pumps energy from violent abuse, survives on hatred and
>>anger... His "guru" was actually trown out of the cult for sexual
>>abuse or something. I'm not easily shocked, but talking with this guy
>>on alt.religion.vaisnava some time ago actually did manage that.
>
>My guru was thrown out for sexual abuse?? 

Well, people can find lots of strange things when they search the web
archives... and I wanted to inform myself about you, since you were
something that is seldom seen, and you actually foamed enough to
threaten to kill me, if you remember? Well, so I looked on your Hare
Krishna forums, and found out that some people "tactically" suggested
that you must be in real pain since your guru maharaja left ISKCON,
and now you must choose another one... what a pity. :) I made further
queries and found very little information. It's a pity that most of
these 1999 articles expired by now and I'd really have to work hard in
order to produce links. But I can probably do it if I feel motivated,
however.

Your "guru" was Harikesha Swami (Hare Krishna "swamis" in fact have
nothing to do with the real thing, they use the word "goswami" to
differentiate themselves from Shankaracarya's lineage). 

http://farsight.members.beeb.net/vineet_narain_addresses_gbc_.htm
http://members.tripod.de/gbc/black/hk2.htm
http://www.chakra.org/mainpages/people/harikesa/

It is very difficult to find the reason for his departure from ISKCON,
but most articles imply sex as the primary reason. In order to find
these links I had to weed through literally hundreds of disgusting
things, mutual accusations for atrocities, non-existing spiritual
standards... I actually chose the nicest and the most neutral links. 
Sexual reasons seem primary, but there are others. He was obviously
charged with mismanagement, he lost his movement millions of dollars
in all sorts of dubious ventures; he also seems to be a dry man with
no scruples whatsoever, who walked over corpses if he found it fit.
The entire thing makes me sick, but I decided to explore it in order
to show people that you are lying. There _is_ evidence, and the thing
is more-less common knowledge in Hare Krishna circles; I wasn't saying
anything that couldn't easily be proved.

I see that your "friends" have little respect for you:

"Jahnu das: a disciple and main helper of his false guru Harikesha
(ex-swami); a man known as pathologically envious, brainless zombi
idiot willing to say anything in order to coverup, protect and
stonewall the gbc gangster/ BBT/ BBt-I activities; man to be
questioned by european police in upcoming investigations about
criminal activities within North european BBT/ BBT-I and Harikesha's
'zonal' activities."
(http://members.tripod.de/gbc/black/bogus1.htm)
and also http://members.tripod.de/gbc/themes/jahnurep.htm ...

It is easy to see the "high standards" of speech in Hare Krishna
circles; insults, name-calling and personal attacks are so common that
you seem not to be an exception, but a rule.

>Get your facts straight,
>idiot. I guess you got that bit lying information the same place you
>got the facts for your worthless book, right?

Of course, your holiness. Whatever you say. Calmness of your soul
gives inspiration to us all, and from the scent of Thy lotus feet we
can get a reminiscence of a heaven long lost to our fallen souls. :)
My book, as well as my sinful existence, is worthless compared to the
giant ocean of your loving kindness and compassion.
;>

>This useless Danijel had the fanciful notion that he should come over
>to alt.religion.vaisnava to teach everyone about his twisted ideas of
>spirituality. Muahaha. He soon ran away with the tail between his legs
>like the dog he is.

Actually, I expressed my opinion, and since you all could do nothing
but keep insulting me, I left. In India, ad hominem is always
considered to be an automatic loss. For instance, you wrote three
messages so far, and they all consisted of 0% argument and 100% ad
hominem insults and evasion tactics (put the burden of evidence on
me). Not really conclusive, eh?

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