X-Ftn-To: Marcus E Engdahl 

mengdahl@cc.hut.fi (Marcus E Engdahl) wrote:
>In article ,
>alesclandre  wrote:
>>Yeah, well, it is not because you had a bad argument with that person
>>that you must play the shrink and destabilize her even more.
>>The question was: how do you see her "astral body", not what you see.
>
>To be honest, I'd like to send people who believe in astral bodies to see a good
>shrink. I wonder how people get convinced about those kind of things.

This is just another way to say that you believe that you are a
physical thing without any other aspect. A very depressing thing to
believe. Maybe you are the one who needs a shrink, because such a
worldview is too much for any being to carry. ;)

How we get convinced? Well, a guy makes an astral projection before
me. While his astral body is outside his physical, I point my finger
to it, in spite of the fact that he keeps changing positions, just to
tease me. My finger is constantly pointed at his astral.
He returns to his body and tells me that if he didn't see it, he
wouldn't fuckin' believe it.
Now, that's just for start, but that makes you think about it.
The next thing is even stranger. Someone thinks about something, and
you say it out loud. It happens to you all the time, and you're always
right. You never make mistakes. You always know what they're thinking,
and you can confirm it with no problem. This makes the belief firmer.
Then you meet someone, look into his eyes and feel the deepest love
that you can feel, and this person has a vision of God, his heart
chakra "explodes", his Kundalini awakens and he goes into kriyas. When
you find out that you can sometimes do it at a distance - you just
meditate and think about someone and send love, and then you go to
your PC and pick up mail, where you find this person describing how
suddenly his consciousness expanded and he was everywhere and he felt
things he never felt before, well, this makes you think about your
"special" abilities as of something normal, and when someone visits
you at your house, and tells you that the vibe around you feels like
God's presence and floating in the clouds, then you're surprized
because you consider this to be perfectly normal, without even
noticing.
When your wife washes your clothes, and she notice that this new
detergent is very cool, but it makes only your clothes smell better,
not hers, you just smile because you already got used to much weirder
stuff.
Yoga is a very deep thing, you know. And enligthenment isn't just a
matter of changing perspective. It's a matter of being one with the
objective reality, and describing yourself, and affecting yourself.

But, this newsgroup seems so immature that I wonder whether it might
be the best thing for me to just leave. I don't want to disturb your
world.

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