X-Ftn-To: Wade Humeniuk 

"Wade Humeniuk"  wrote:
>> I waited, and waited, and hoped that someone will react to this, but
>> noting. Oh well.
>
>I will take a shot at this.  For me ahimsa is not a truth but a behaviour.

This is true; and a very positive type of behavior, too.

>And I believe it is a behaviour that more evovled beings exhibit.  It arises
>naturally from awareness of other beings in the universe and identification
>with them.  Yoga promotes the behaviour in a hope to bring that
>consciousness about (As it also promotes non-stealing, non-lying, ...).  Act
>evolved/enlightened and you will become enlightened.  Ahimsa arises from
>consciousness.

I agree.

>> Also, if you're in a peaceful country that's being invaded by the
>> Serbs, you know that your best shot at survival is to try to stop them
>> by all means possible. If you play nonviolence (as Bosnian president
>> Izetbegovic did) your people will be slaughtered on sight (see
>> Srebrenica). Those who aren't killed immediately will be brought to
>> concentration camps, where they'll be starved, tortured and/or raped,
>> and most will also be eventually killed. It is obvious that controlled
>> violence against the aggressors is the most nonviolent option
>> available. Therefore, a well armed defensive military force is the
>> best way to keep peace, if you have insane neighbours. All of that
>> stuff is practical experience since, to remind you, I'm from Croatia.
>
>And I am sure that the Serbs say the same thing. I worked with a guy who was
>Serbian. 

I'm sure he would. However, the war was fought on our territory, not
theirs. Enough said.

>He said the Croats and Serbs have a feud going back 100's of years
>and they hate one another.

Actually this is not accurate. If you take a look, you will see that
the Serbs first fought the Slovenians, then Croatians, then Bosnians
and now they've finished fighting Albanians. Basically, they're in
conflict with everybody. Also, not even a shot was fired on the
Serbian territory, and half of the surrounding countries is devastated
by their heavy bombardment. The only actual attack on Serbia was done
by NATO.

>  He also said the Croats were Nazi collaborators
>and sent many Serbs to the concentration camps and the Serbs wanted to get
>even.  

Actually, both the Serbs and the Croat collaborated with nazis. Both
Serbs and Croatians persecuted the jews and other minorities. However,
the pro-nazi regime had a strong opposition in Croatia, and all of the
Partisan leaders, who freed the entire former Yugoslavia, were Croats,
including Tito. In Serbia, the chetnik pro-nazi regime had no
opposition whatsoever. 
You know very little about history, it seems. And don't listen to the
Serbs; in Netherlands, they actually have a proverb about them, "lying
like a Serb". Enough said.

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