X-Ftn-To: Dharmadeva 

"Dharmadeva"  wrote:
>"Danijel Turina"  wrote in message
>news:ir25etk3qjed4hpqahfqbm9fsuh8q79r0r@4ax.com...
>> X-Ftn-To: Tracy Miller
>> > I think you're right... with all those guys insisting that "yoga is
>> not a religion" and that there's "nothing mystical about yoga",
>
>There is everything mystical, but mysticism does not imply religion.
>Religion and spirituality DO NOT EQUATE.    Things can be spiritual but not
>religious.

Well, if you define religion as a belief system without any spiritual
foundation, then I of course agree. Unfortunately, religions are
usually just that.

>> what
>> you noticed seems inevitable, unfortunately. It reminds me of a guy
>> here in Croatia, who calls himself Makaja, and advertises his
>> "tantric" classes as a way to learn 8-hour long orgasms.
>
>These people are the worst exploiters.

I don't believe that. I think that this guy was just short sighted,
and doesn't understand the functioning of human mind. 

>> He said that
>> he's very clever: he'll attract people with something mundane, and
>> when they begin the practice, their spiritual taste will awaken and
>> they'll get deeper into the practice.
>
>If there minds are degenerated to the mundane the approach of this exploiter
>is anti-dharmic and will make it harder for the mind to elevate itself.
>
>You can take a course on sex through agabaga.com for only $210.

Oh, compared to Makaja it's very cheap, he charges ten times that
much. :) And, mind you, he _does_ teach people lots about sex, it's
just that he doesn't teach them much about spirituality, or, about
spirituality that's beyond masturbating heart chakra into constant
radiation. I believe that most of his students think that they got
good value for their money. After all, he _did_ focus primarily on sex
and energetic purification, and his technique looks much more
convincing than for instance 3HO.

>Just like a generic drug for those who can't afford the patented version.
>
>It works like this if you are wealthier you will pay more for the same drug.

It's not that simple. From this position, I'd actually have to defend
the guy, he's not selling ordinary sex, he's working on
susumna-anahata purification and on cleansing the pranic-astral-mental
vertical. He _does_ have good results there, I saw his students.
They're not deeply initiated, but they are in a much better condition
than for instance Hari Har Singh. They are taught to open the susumna
nadi and to radiate bliss through the heart chakra for hours and days
in a row, and then they progress to the crown chakra. The crown energy
that they radiate is so powerful that their hair goes gray from it.
He's not a cheat, but it all lacks the deep spiritual component. Look
at http://www.komaja.org for details... personally, I find it utterly
disgusting, but you'll not easily guess why. Most people on this group
would probably find it all loving, spiritual and wonderful, judging on
their reaction to other shallow hypocrites. 

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