{"id":4326,"date":"2025-05-30T11:41:09","date_gmt":"2025-05-30T10:41:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.danijel.org\/blog\/?p=4326"},"modified":"2025-05-30T11:41:09","modified_gmt":"2025-05-30T10:41:09","slug":"about-that-line","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.danijel.org\/blog\/about-that-line\/","title":{"rendered":"About that line&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"justify\">I said that a line has been drawn at <i>vajra<\/i>, and that souls that are not made of at least that will be considered non-entities and wiped out as this world ends. I think this requires more explanations.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">First of all, some souls were made of such stuff before incarnation here, but got lost and didn\u2019t attain enough skill and purity to make a full circle and realize this in the material world. As unfortunate as that may be, the consequences of such partial incarnation are likely to be merely awakening in their full power at the other side, wondering what the fuck that was and how did they manage to get so lost and confused. Essentially, other than having that incarnation as a shameful reminder that they are not as powerful as they thought of themselves, they do not necessarily lose much. However, I don\u2019t know the details. If they pledged something, and its return is contingent upon success in the material world, that would have been lost. I\u2019ve seen such instances and it\u2019s never pretty. Also, not attaining full initiation in the material world is only one of the modes of failure. One can also make spiritual choices that are harmful or binding, and that\u2019s a mess in its own right. Basically, failure to attain initiation is a failure to choose your true self in the world, which means you are lost in the sphere of things, and this exists in a range from harmless to really bad. I won\u2019t get too much into how bad it can get, but I think spiritual degradation can be quite serious if you \u201cspend\u201d your spiritual wealth on the \u201cupkeep\u201d of a wasteful physical existence. So, basically, if you didn\u2019t attain initiation into <i>vajra<\/i> in this life, it\u2019s not necessarily a terrible thing, but it\u2019s also never great. Best scenario, you get everything back as you die, and you feel like a damn fool. Worst case scenario, you can get seriously degraded if you did really harmful things, such as spending your spiritual wealth here. I think various uninitiated or partially initiated \u201cspiritual teachers\u201d tend to do that, and also some especially bad kinds of sin, such as willingly serving Satan, or pledging yourself to him in some way, or opposing God, or creating a false religion that is widely harmful, are in this category. Basically, you need to really fuck up; ordinary fuckups don\u2019t really count. There are things that can break your soul\u2019s <i>vajra<\/i> core or piss away its \u201cjewels\u201d in an unsuccessful incarnation, so a mere failure to attain initiation can be the least of your problems. Anti-initiation exists, you know. Making choices that are the direct opposite of those that would attain initiation can produce fractures in your soul, with all kinds of bad outcomes. Loss of soul-mass, degradation back to the status of an astral being, even complete destruction. So, the fact that you might have had high spiritual status before this incarnation doesn\u2019t necessarily put you in the clear. If you fucked up hard enough, the consequences will be bad and permanent.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Second, why is <i>vajra<\/i> the place where the line is drawn, and not \u201cwhite light\u201d of <i>anahata cakra<\/i>, the stuff religions keep harping about \u2013 love, compassion and so on. Mostly because that stuff is so intertwined with animal biology it\u2019s not really spirituality, not in most cases. Sure, you can feel love, but so did Hitler, and so does Joe\u2019s dog. Had you actually attained purity of that state, <i>vajra<\/i> initiation would have commenced, because in my experience that\u2019s how it works; you can\u2019t have pure emotions in the \u201cheart spectrum\u201d if the layers beneath it are dirty, and if you attain and sustain those pure high heart-centered emotions, essentially <i>metta<\/i>, the loving-kindness, acceptance and flow of radiant love, for long enough (days or something in that order of magnitude), you basically qualify for <i>vajra<\/i> initiation. If the initiation doesn\u2019t take place, you\u2019re likely deluding yourself, and your karmic purity isn\u2019t sufficient. If it does take place, you can still fail to attain it if you make bad choices. Essentially, you can say \u201cno\u201d. So, basically, initiation into <i>vajra<\/i> is the first step in spiritual growth that actually amounts to something, and it\u2019s not a mere experience, such as<i> samadhi<\/i> or <i>darshan<\/i>. I\u2019ve seen people who had all kinds of high experiences and became even worse assholes than they were before. Experiences, as such, don\u2019t say anything about you, and they might actually be a test to see what you\u2019ll do, not a sign of achievement of any kind on your part. If you have an experience of God and you react to it by attaining initiation, now that\u2019s something else, because that says something about you: that you actually accepted what you were shown and became <i>that<\/i>. Failure to become means spiritual weakness and tepidity at best, and rejection of God at worst. In any case, it\u2019s not good.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">So, initiation into <i>vajra<\/i> means that you attained purity of thoughts and emotions, and you chose to rise above the entire sphere of filth and ignorance. That\u2019s why it\u2019s so important. Failure to attain it means failure to rise above filth and ignorance, basically. That\u2019s why the line is drawn there. If you haven\u2019t attained it, it\u2019s testimony to your failure to rise above, and reject lowly things. Why would God want to keep you forever, eh? You couldn\u2019t choose to be pure, non-binding loving-kindness for a week and you would somehow be fit for eternity with God? I don\u2019t think so.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">So, those who were not <i>vajra<\/i>-initiates before, need to attain it, and those who were, need to choose it. Failure to do so is never a good thing, but consequences vary in the range of being taken out with the rest of the trash, being given a chance to complete initiation in the real world, and being embarrassed by your failure but otherwise getting your stuff back. That\u2019s an oversimplification, but I think it helps get the point across.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It\u2019s serious business, life. If you fail to take it seriously, you will face the consequences. Everything matters \u2013 the things you experience, the things you do, the ways you react, what you choose to believe, what you love and what you reject, how you do things, and why. \u201cEverything matters\u201d means it\u2019s consequential, in a sense that it has consequences. Sure, things like getting vanilla ice cream instead of chocolate don\u2019t matter, but your background of consciousness while you do it matters. Purity matters, kindness matters, love matters, detachment matters, and if you combine those things that matter into a constant state that is your choice, higher initiation will follow. Otherwise, fuck around and you will find out.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I said that a line has been drawn at vajra, and that souls that are not made of at least that will be considered non-entities and wiped out as this world ends. I think this requires more explanations. 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