{"id":5248,"date":"2026-01-13T17:58:24","date_gmt":"2026-01-13T16:58:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.danijel.org\/blog\/?p=5248"},"modified":"2026-01-13T19:02:07","modified_gmt":"2026-01-13T18:02:07","slug":"guy-talk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.danijel.org\/blog\/guy-talk\/","title":{"rendered":"Guy talk"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"justify\">\u201cSo, my friend, what has been the most shocking for you here so far?\u201d, Paul sat by Bernard\u2019s side and offered him a cup of coffee.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cThanks, Apostle\u201d, the man nodded. \u201cMost shocking? I don\u2019t know where to even begin\u201d, he gestured. \u201cProbably multiple persons of God. I\u2019m still trying to get my head around that. Not just that there are more than three, but that new ones can be born when existing souls reach their final stage of evolution. The concept that one can become God sounds outright satanic, until you remember that Christ urged us to do just that, but we seem to have swept that part under the rug because we didn\u2019t know how to interpret it\u201d.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cThe next thing are the women\u201d, he waved his head. \u201cThe fact that women can be very holy and smart was always completely normal and expected to me. But that you can have female persons of God, that was a shock, because when one says \u2018Goddess\u2019, the first association are the Pagan deities \u2013 Artemis, Isis, Venus and so on; you would expect some fertility deity of nature surrounded by Satyrs and bunny rabbits, and similar heathen nonsense. But no, they are nothing like that. The first person I met here was Lady Zina. May the Lord forgive me, the first idea I had was that she\u2019s someone\u2019s assistant. But when I understood who she is, I expected the worst \u2013 a non-Christian woman is going to get her payback on an inquisitor who burns witches on a stake and whatever nonsense Pagan enemies of the Church are spreading whenever we have to punish some woman who practiced actual witchcraft, gave someone a preparation brewed from toxic herbs and toads, and the person got possessed by demons or died. So, I expected Artemis to get her payback and send me to hell. Instead, she was incredibly righteous, her account of the facts was superb, and she interpreted them all in my favour, as if she were my own attorney, and not the judge. She behaved as if it was her goal to save me, teach me, comfort me, and she even told me stories from her own life on Earth, somewhere in the early Genesis, thousands of years before Babylon was a thing, if you can believe it. She even said that Adam and Eve are a metaphor for her first group of souls that inhabited human bodies on Earth, and I believed her. Instead of being vengeful, she was just, kind, and her judgment was the most charitable and in my favour. May God forgive me, but by the end of it, I loved her as much as I love Christ himself, and since she sent me to him and I actually talked to him in person, I know what I\u2019m talking about. He asked me about my impressions of her and I told him the truth, that she is nothing how I would have imagined a female deity, but every much as I would have imagined him, and he nodded, praising her greatly. Let me tell you, everything in the Bible about how God is jealous, I expected to see it, but they love each other so deeply, it melts my heart as I see it. He told me that the part about the jealous God is about worshipping Satan and all other unworthy things, such as the made up Gods or nature, not worshipping other persons of the One True God\u201d, he ended the tirade with a sigh and a smile.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cDid he tell you about his wife?\u201d, Paul snickered.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cHe did, but at that point, after all that I\u2019ve seen, that part actually felt normal\u201d, Bernard laughed. \u201cWhat actually still shocks me is how the Gods are with each other\u201d, he mused. \u201cThey are innocent like small children, and yet there is such wisdom and power in their eyes that I just stand there like a fool and can\u2019t get my thoughts to move. One would expect them to be strict and stern, but they feel like family members who know each other for eternity, and yet every time they see each other they react with such deep joy, as if a brother and sister who see each other for the first time after being apart for years. It\u2019s a wonder to witness. It feels absolutely pure and innocent, and yet, God forgive me, more intimate than sexual intercourse. When I was with Jesus, Lord Buddha came by and brought us coffee. The way those two greeted each other felt like diving straight into the deep mind of God, and yet they just greeted each other in passing. I read the books of Marco Polo about Buddhism in China, and I imagined that it must be some religion much inferior to our belief in Christ, but when I saw those two, I understood that I know nothing about God\u201d.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cWant to hear some gossip?\u201d, Paul grinned a lopsided grin of mischef.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201c?\u201d<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cAugustine became a God just recently\u201d, Paul nodded.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cSt. Augustine?\u201d, Bernard\u2019s jaw dropped.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cIndeed. He used to sit here with me, brooding, as you do now. Then he met his wife again, the one he wrote about and regretted leaving in \u2018<i>Confessiones<\/i>\u2019. She remained celibate in that life and three more that followed, spiritually evolving so that she could be his true match. They are inseparable now\u201d, he smiled. \u201cI miss our talks, though\u201d.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cSomehow, I\u2019m not surprised; the Goddesses are incredible. Soft as feathers and virtuous and powerful as Christ. I\u2019ve never seen anything like it\u201d, Bernard shrugged. \u201cWho is the Lady?\u201d<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cYou might even know her, she was quite famous. It\u2019s Hildegard of Bingen\u201d.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cOf course I know her. Of her, at least. She wrote excellent music and interesting books. Incredibly virtuous and holy person of bright intelligence\u201d, he nodded. \u201cAnd you say she saved herself for him through all those lives and centuries?\u201d<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cYes. She said she found her man, and until she could be with him properly, no other man had any appeal\u201d.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cThis is such a high standard for loyalty, chastity and faith, that I stand wordless. And is she a Goddess too? If not, she ought to be, because what you are telling me is amazing\u201d, he was stunned.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cShe is. Apparently, souls become Gods in couples. No single man, or single woman, can become a God or a Goddess. It\u2019s always a couple of perfect souls who love each other perfectly\u201d, Paul explained.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cBe perfect as your Heavenly Father\u201d, Bernard quoted.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cIndeed\u201d, the Apostle nodded. \u201cAugustine told me that his heart stopped when he sent her away, all those centuries ago, and he couldn\u2019t make any true spiritual progress since. And when they were reunited, they both attained perfection almost instantaneously\u201d.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cWe really messed up with celibacy, didn&#8217;t we?\u201d, Bernard nodded in dismay.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cI\u2019m not sure about that. We\u2019re talking about really perfect souls here, great holy people in their own right, capable of incredibly strong and pure love that is of God, and when they meet their counterpart, Divine magic happens. But ordinary people, they are more likely to be just male and female fools, doing foolish things each in their own worldly ways, making life difficult for each other. It might be better to be celibate and hone your spirituality in solitude until you are ready for this Divine form of love that makes you a brother or sister of Christ, than to lose yourself in the quagmire of worldly nonsense. That, at least, is what I am telling myself\u201d, Paul shrugged.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cYou are probably right. I would prefer staying celibate to being married to a worldly woman. But when I see those perfect, godly women, I am amazed at their perfection. It\u2019s like seeing a female Christ, and not just one, but several different ones, all perfect in their own right. I can\u2019t imagine myself being married to a woman like that, because I\u2019m not worthy. But I want to be\u201d, Bernard nodded. \u201cIt is a thing to aspire toward, because I can\u2019t think of a more worthy goal\u201d.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cThere is a good thing about worldly marriage in a lesser standard of love\u201d, Paul nodded. \u201cYou get to practice. Learn how to be with a woman, learn how one thinks and feels, how to help her and be a man for her. As a celibate, you are unlikely to learn any of it, and as such, you won\u2019t know how to be with a woman, or develop spiritual features this requires. Sure, it\u2019s unlikely that your wife on Earth and yourself are to develop the deepest form of love, like Christ and Magdalena, or Buddha and Zina, but it is going to be vastly better than lusting after boys, as pederasts do. Practice will show you both right and wrong ways, so that you can learn and improve\u201d.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cYou are indeed wise, Apostle\u201d, Bernard nodded.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\u201cNot as wise as Augustine, regretfully\u201d, Paul smiled his lopsided grin.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cSo, my friend, what has been the most shocking for you here so far?\u201d, Paul sat by Bernard\u2019s side and offered him a cup of coffee. \u201cThanks, Apostle\u201d, the man nodded. \u201cMost shocking? 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