X-Ftn-To: Scourge of God (tm)

"Scourge of God (tm)" wrote:
>>Hell yeah. I'm an eNTp inventor (extroverted iNtuitive Thinking
>>perceiving) in the Keirsey temperament scale (www.keirsey.com). And
>>you?
>
> In the eyes of God your are no more worth that an ordinary shit.

Now come on, this is not true at all.

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X-Ftn-To: jody

jody wrote:
>As I said before, it isn't Danijel's behavior that belies his lack
>of understanding, it's what's lacking "between the lines" that makes
>this abundantly clear.

Do you actually understand the arrogance of what you wrote?

Let me explain. In order to know what is not a chair, you must know
what _is_ a chair. In order to discriminate between a TV and a
computer monitor, you need to know both. In order to discriminate
between real and false understanding, you need to _have_ real
understanding, and then by comparison eliminate the false. Or, you
have to know someone who positively has real understanding, and you
also need to have the ability to identify it, as well as its opposite.
Basically, you again need to have ultimate understanding of the
highest reality.

What you wrote implies that you have the realization of the ultimate
truth, and this realization makes you able to recognize the falsehood.
And now, since you already admitted that you are not enlightened, your
position cannot be described as something other than utter arrogance.

Let me clarify something. I write only from experience. Not only that
I have the experience, but I have also lead others to it, and so they,
too, have the experience. You would need to be damn sure of yourself
in order to make statements such as yours, and such confidence could
come only from
a) unquestionable and ultimate realization of the highest truth, or
b) ignorance, arrogance, misconceptions and sheer stupidity.

Think about it, for a change, and _don't_ reply before you did,
because I had enough of people who write things that can't stand even
the slightest breeze of scrutiny.

Now, I would really like to hear someone who _has_ the intimate
knowledge of God, in both personal and impersonal aspects, who has
purified all of his bodies and who is able to perceive the highest
Purusa while he writes to me, to tell me that I am wrong. What I don't
want to hear, however, are people who have no realization, but they
still feel called to judge mine. Those people can go fuck themselves,
as far as I'm concerned. I consider them to be idiots.

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X-Ftn-To: Radenko Kosic

Radenko Kosic wrote:
>> ----------
>> I seek to know in order to serve.
>
>I seek to ....

...get laid in order to fuck?

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Homepage: http://www.danijel.org

X-Ftn-To: Bruno Babic

"Bruno Babic" wrote:
>Danijel Turina wrote in message
>news:cu00gt4eg4eunv4u8p6q0egb7ufgg8q8u6@4ax.com...
>> Ma nije on nista bolje u stanju, on je obicni plitki i povrsni
>> proizvod svoje okoline bez ikakve izrazene svijesti o sebi i onome sto
>> ga okruzuje.
>
>Da, upravo tako. Samo me zanima zasto to tebi smeta?

Ma ne smetas Ti mene, dusice, Ti si odlican primjer osobe koja je
plitka, koja nema razvijenu svijest ni o sebi ni o stvarnosti, i koja
samo reflektira plitkosti koje je pokupila iz okoline, dok istodobno u
svojoj plitkosti misli kako je upravo on taj koji misli svojom glavom,
sto je tek rezultat potpune neupucenosti u stvari kojima se drugi,
pametniji, bave. Sve u svemu, samo Ti pisi ovdje, dodjes mi cisto kao
dobra ilustracija koju mogu pokazati ucenicima, da bas ne moram vaditi
postove iz arhive.

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X-Ftn-To: Marcus E Engdahl

mengdahl@cc.hut.fi (Marcus E Engdahl) wrote:
>>Still, it's better to be in a good state of mind than in a poor one,
>>and since people constantly attempt to improve their situation, in one
>>way or another, even the theory that enlightenment is merely a state
>>of inner harmony is reason enough to try to attain it.
>
>Yes, but should one put 'total commitment' into such a cause?

Think about it, every thing, that produces results worthy of
attainment, takes serious commitment. I don't see why spirituality
would make an exception.

>There's
>much more to life than spiritual practise.

It depends on how you define spiritual.

>Many people are so lost
>that they are desperately seeking something...I wonder why.

They are lost because they don't know God.

>>Some experiences, that
>>are experienced as utterly positive in a wider worldview (which
>>includes God, angels and other similar beings) can cause serious
>>confusion and trouble in an atheistic worldview, because one would
>>interpret these events as hallucinations, thus aggravating his
>>condition even further with worries about his mental sanity.
>
>If somebody channels information from angels, he/she should be worried
>about sanity.

I agree. But, I was not talking about people with schizofrenia, but
people like for instance Yogananda. He in fact had visions of God
every now and then. He also had visions of other spiritual beings.
None of those visions can be described as a product of a distorted
mind, except maybe by someone with a distorted perception of what is
real.

>>Furthermore, only a total beginner can be an atheist.
>
>Hehheh, in the beginning practically all people were superstitious.
>We've come a long way baby.

Yes, you've come from being ignorant to rationalizing it into a common
rule.

>Question authority. Know thyself.

:)) Actually, if you followed your own advice consistently, the
realization of God would follow.

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X-Ftn-To: Marcus E Engdahl

mengdahl@cc.hut.fi (Marcus E Engdahl) wrote:
>>I express different standpoints and I'm not in agreement with your
>>concepts of spirituality and enlightenment.
>
>Me neither. I think that the enlightened state is an attainable state
>of mind, nothing more and nothing less. It may be a worthy goal, and
>on the other hand it may be not (what's the use of spending one's life
>trying to mould one's consciousness towards enlightement, if it's only
>a very good state of mind?).

Still, it's better to be in a good state of mind than in a poor one,
and since people constantly attempt to improve their situation, in one
way or another, even the theory that enlightenment is merely a state
of inner harmony is reason enough to try to attain it.
However, I never saw anyone who managed that, starting from the
standpoint that it's only his mental states. Some experiences, that
are experienced as utterly positive in a wider worldview (which
includes God, angels and other similar beings) can cause serious
confusion and trouble in an atheistic worldview, because one would
interpret these events as hallucinations, thus aggravating his
condition even further with worries about his mental sanity.
Furthermore, only a total beginner can be an atheist. When one starts
the practice, God's existence soon becomes self-evident, and atheistic
belief must be rejected as groundless.

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X-Ftn-To: jody

jody wrote:
>It isn't rudeness that belies Daniel's lack of true understanding,
>it's the picture he paints of realization. It is quite evident in
>his description that he's not speaking from experience, but from
>speculation.

Thinking about it, we'll come to the following conclusion.

None of you are realized, or have attained any significant spiritual
progress.

You all read something about enlightenment, and formed ideas.

These ideas didn't get you enlightened, though. Still, you consider
them to be right.

I express different standpoints and I'm not in agreement with your
concepts of spirituality and enlightenment.

Therefore I cannot possibly be enlightened, and I'm obviously a
deluded fake.

Wow, ain't logic kewl. ;>>

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X-Ftn-To: Marin Kovacic

"Marin Kovacic" wrote:
>vriane wrote in message
>news:3B2770CD@MailAndNews.com...
>> I ask this because that is what he told us on alt.yoga.
>> He said that in two years he brought peace, love and yoga
>> to you, who were uncivilized before he came.
>
>Samo da se zna, pratim alt.yoga i ovaj laze u svih sesnaest.
>No, ne sumnjam da ce to ikoga sprijeciti da pokrene
>jos jedan val pljuvanja. :-)

Naravno. Nekima je cak i ocigledni ludjak dovoljno ohrabrenje u
njihovim nastojanjima.

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X-Ftn-To: Radoslav Prica

Stovanje Manijak!

felix@inet.hr (Radoslav Prica) wrote:
> p.s. o Boze.. di ih pronalazis?? Pa zar svaki idiot koji dobije komp bas
> mora doc na konfu??

A izgleda. Na stranim konfama je taj tip stvorenja dosta cest, ima par
komada takvih koji teroriziraju ljude. Ja sam ga vec abusao, cekam
rezultate. Mislim da bi pomoglo da jos desetak ljudi posalje zalbu,
cisto onako, da ne ispadne da jedino meni ide na jetra.

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X-Ftn-To: Mihael Popinjac

mpopin@public.srce.hr (Mihael Popinjac) wrote:
>>Ma gdje su tu rezultati, koji su kompatibilni s takvom tvrdnjom? Odi
>>na kavu s Domchijem i Felixom s jedne strane, i sa nekakvom "kremom"
>>Rufusove ekipe i samim Rufusom. Pogledaj kako Ti izgledaju jedni, a
>>kako drugi. Mucni glavom i tako to.
>
> Pricao si s Rufusom ili nekim od sluzbenih egzorcista ili govoris na
>temelju pretpostavki (ili razgovora s nekim od "obicnih" svecenika, koji,
>uzgred, znaju biti cisto solidno zdrmani i nesredjeni, kao i vecina ljudi
>na ovom svijetu...)?

Govorim iskljucivo na temelju opazanja astrala grada Zagreba za
vrijeme jedne Rufusove "seanse", a sliku sam dopunio raspolozivim
informacijama od ljudi koji su imali s njim posla.

>Samo, od Rufusa vjerojatno necu cuti ono sto sam cuo od tebe: Siromahe
>duhom (odnosno one koji nemaju dovoljno mozdanog potencijala da se ni za
>sebe brinu) treba ubiti i prije nego se rode, koje osim sto si izrekao i
>branio si cvrsto.

Ti si obicna budala koja nije u stanju razlikovati kurac od banane.

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