X-Ftn-To: jody

jody wrote:
>> Ego is the disease. Kundalini is the treatment. God is the cure.
>
>And ignorance is the condition which causes ego to be seen as a disease.
>
>Ego itself is only a mechanism employed by the organism to satisfy
>the instinct of self preservation. While the attachment it causes
>as the sense of individual identity is overwhelming, regarding it as
>a disease is an error in reasoning, simply because this reasoning has
>its foundation in the ego itself. That is, it is ego, and only ego,
>which can see ego as a disease.

I think I'll stop writing on this fucking group altogether, because
every time I write something, there comes a smartass to disupute with
something I never said.

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X-Ftn-To: Dharmadeva

"Dharmadeva" wrote:
>The caste system is hypocrisy -- unreal. If you analyze the cast of human
>beings you will find that the ancestors of every human being were monkey. In
>that case everybody's caste is monkey caste. All this hypocrisy is to be
>given up. Is it that the ancestor of a Brahman-caste human being, was a
>Brahman-caste monkey and that of a Rajput-caste person a Rajput-caste
>monkey?

Get over it, finally. It's obvious that the caste system is
dysfunctional, but since nobody was even questioning that, you can
stop repeating the stuff you heard your guru say to the Indian
audience. You're from Australia and I'm from Croatia, and neither
country has castes (except, of course, the rich caste and the poor
caste, which also seem to be inherited).

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X-Ftn-To: Dharmadeva

"Dharmadeva" wrote:
>Tantra is a practical science introduced in India some 7000 years ago by
>Sada'shiva, a great yogii who lived in the Himalayan mountains.

Where did you get that information? Did you sit there with him, or you
just read it in a book? AFAIK tantra is a very recent invention.

>Shrii Shrii A'nandamu'rti introduced once again a
>complete Tantric system for the all-round physical, mental and spiritual
>development of an individual.

Aha, so now we actually do get to the bottom of things.

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X-Ftn-To: Aco Momcilovic (a.k.a. Never)

"Aco Momcilovic (a.k.a. Never)" wrote:
>>katolicki obred egzorcizma u stvari _pojaca_ te entitete, buduci da ih
>>"invocira" atributima vraga, daje im se snaga i moc, a onda ih se
>>izbaci iz zaposjednutog tijela. Takvi, pojacani, oni onda nadju drugu
>>zrtvu i to je to. Zato katolicki egzorcisti svaki puta naprave totalno
>>sranje u astralu kad negdje pocnu "istjerivati vragove", naime sve
>>astralne entitete uzburkaju i pojacaju, i istovremeno masu biblijama i
>>napuhavaju si ego. Nema te grupe sotonista i magova koja ce napraviti
>>vece sranje u astralu od patera Rufusa...
>
>Znas li ti neku bolju metodu?

Znam; stovise, cak sam imao prilike isprobati je.
Pogledas Boga kroz takav entitet i time ga na mjestu ubijes. Naravno,
moras biti u stanju pogledati Boga.

>>Sam vrag, koliko sam stekao dojam, se nikada ne bavi nekakvim
>>zaposjedanjem pojedinacnog covjeka, nego vise nekom vrstom globalne
>>politike, usmjerene na drzanje ljudi u ropstvu i neznanju.
>>Naravno, ljudsko opredjeljenje protiv Boga moze izgledati kao
>>opsjednutost vragom; pogledaj samo Knezevica i njegovo pisanje otkad
>>je odlucio ici protiv mene. Pogledaj Tomislava. Zvuce kao copor
>>bijesnih pasa koji reze i pljuju otrov. Mrznja, prezir, agresija,
>>oholost, a sve u sluzbi ega koji se grci u mraku bez nade. Tako
>
>Ja to ne vidim tako.

Ima vremena.

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X-Ftn-To: Theo

Theo wrote:
> It is not an hoax get in this site and read about the
>dangers hidden behind irresposible kundalini training !
>
>http://kundalini-info.org/engbrosch.html

This site contains very harmful propaganda that can actually _cause_
Kundalini-related problems; almost equally harmful as Gopi Krishna's
babble. I would suggest a visit to http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/
and the Kundalini-gateway mailing list. Of course, one _needs_ proper
training, but Kundalini is dangerous only if you approach it as the
problem and the enemy. That's what sites like this one can accomplish;
something changes beyond the Almighty Ego's will, and it's
automatically labeled as the problem and the disease.
Ego is the disease. Kundalini is the treatment. God is the cure.

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X-Ftn-To: Aco Momcilovic (a.k.a. Never)

"Aco Momcilovic (a.k.a. Never)" wrote:
>>On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:50:40 +0200, "Aco Momcilovic (a.k.a. Never)"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Sumnjam da je itko blize iz sedme ruke radio egzorcizam.
>>>A jos manje da je bio uspjesan.
>>
>>sumnjas dok ne vidis ...
>
>A na koji to nacin vrag bira 'zrtve' - pnako random ili...
>Danijel T. je rekao ad gnjavi samo one koji nesto 'znace' ali ta mi
>teorija malo sepa.

Sumnjam da je ikada ijedan egzorcist imao posla sa samim vragom.
Najcesce, nalete na nekakav astralni entitet slabije i nize vrste, ili
nekoliko takvih koji "zaposjedaju" jedno tijelo. Nazalost, cini se da
katolicki obred egzorcizma u stvari _pojaca_ te entitete, buduci da ih
"invocira" atributima vraga, daje im se snaga i moc, a onda ih se
izbaci iz zaposjednutog tijela. Takvi, pojacani, oni onda nadju drugu
zrtvu i to je to. Zato katolicki egzorcisti svaki puta naprave totalno
sranje u astralu kad negdje pocnu "istjerivati vragove", naime sve
astralne entitete uzburkaju i pojacaju, i istovremeno masu biblijama i
napuhavaju si ego. Nema te grupe sotonista i magova koja ce napraviti
vece sranje u astralu od patera Rufusa...
Sam vrag, koliko sam stekao dojam, se nikada ne bavi nekakvim
zaposjedanjem pojedinacnog covjeka, nego vise nekom vrstom globalne
politike, usmjerene na drzanje ljudi u ropstvu i neznanju.
Naravno, ljudsko opredjeljenje protiv Boga moze izgledati kao
opsjednutost vragom; pogledaj samo Knezevica i njegovo pisanje otkad
je odlucio ici protiv mene. Pogledaj Tomislava. Zvuce kao copor
bijesnih pasa koji reze i pljuju otrov. Mrznja, prezir, agresija,
oholost, a sve u sluzbi ega koji se grci u mraku bez nade. Tako
izgleda opsjednutost vragom, ali vragom kao principom, ne kao osobom.
Za vraga kao osobu u stvari samo nagadjam da postoji, otprilike kao
sto krscani nagadjaju da postoji Bog; nisu ga vidjeli, ali im se po
svemu cini da ga ima.

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X-Ftn-To: H Bkta

hbkta@aol.com (H Bkta) wrote:
>>AFAIK, this issue was theoretically solved by Yudisthira in his short
>>conversation with Nahusa
>
>theoretically perhaps, practically no.
>people are still being killed because of thier caste in India.

What I wanted to say is that the conventional system of castes was
rejected by hindu scriptures thousands of years ago; the fact, that
this system still exists, is merely a practical problem that needs to
be solved, and I was _not_ talking about that. I of course agree that
the Indian varna/yati system is totally wrong and that it needs to be
reformed.

What is "H Bkta" for, "Hari Bhakta"?

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X-Ftn-To: Tracy Miller

tracym@pipeline.com (Tracy Miller) wrote:
>I checked out this web site, and I think this guy is starting a cult.

Actually, he's _running_ a cult for some years now. :) A benign one,
though... non-violence, vegetarian diet, yogic practice, ego massage,
good sex, that sort of stuff... "let's all be happy and good looking"
stuff.

>I think it is fluffy crap, pardon my language.

Yes, that would be a good description. :)

>Here's the worst:
>
>"The aim of every human deed is, basically, to bring about a state of
>complete physical, psychic, social and, finally, cosmic harmony. The
>realisation of the state in which all one?s needs are fully satisfied
>at any given time. All living beings strive towards reaching this
>state of blissfulness...?
>
>Every need? Is this like a magic basket that supplies everything?
>Doesn't sound very transcendent.

It would even make sense if he actually knew what he's talking about;
in fact, this is mostly recycled Aurobindo. That, plus some theosophy,
and he creates an appearance of someone who actually has a clue.
Appearance deceives.

_Aurobindo_ probably wanted to say that the point is not to transcend,
but to manifest the transcendental in our lives.

>?Komaja is born within a terrible cleft separating that which is
>offered by today?s Christians, Hinduists, Materialists and all other
>?same-ists?, on the one hand, and the essential need of contemporary
>man, on the other. For this reason, this term is not to be found in
>any spiritual or worldly literature, not even in the dictionaries for
>foreign terms. Komaja stems from a time in the future. Komaja is a
>scream (...).?
>
>
>A scream? * What* is he talking about?

:) He's just into pompous bullshit.
A friend of mine met him today, she said that he looks far worse than
she figured from my descriptions. :)

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X-Ftn-To: H Bkta

hbkta@aol.com (H Bkta) wrote:
>and I guess that is the point.
>Caste system is not flexible.
>Born of shudra parents, you are consigned to live and work your life as a
>shudra.
>Born a of brahmin parents, one is considered a bramin, fit for life as priest
>and spiritual teacher simply by dint of one's birth into a brahmin family. and
>without the thread one is not cosidered bramin.

AFAIK, this issue was theoretically solved by Yudisthira in his short
conversation with Nahusa the Serpent. :) I felt no need to repeat
that, since I thought it to be common knowledge and common sense.

>>So, what I want to say
>>is that it's OK to classify someone as a warrior as long as it is by
>>_his_ choice, and not by force, or inherited.
>>
>
>might have been a good idea to define "cast system" prior to this interchange.

So it seems; I used the "reformed" definition, where membership of a
caste is a matter of personal qualifications, not something you can be
born into.

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X-Ftn-To: SLAP

"SLAP" wrote:
>> To je BBS-erski termin za killfile, samo sto je na BBSu to rijeseno
>> efikasnije. Kad nekog korisnika stavis na skip listu, sam BBS
>> isfiltrira njegove poruke tako da one ni ne dospiju u QWK paket koji
>> skidas offline, odnosno, ne znas je li taj korisnik ziv ili mrtav,
>> osim po citatima drugih korisnika.
>
>Znaci tehnika se potrudila da i fobicare,ljude slabih zivaca "zastiti".

Mislim da se radi prije o nekoj vrsti elektronske ekologije, odnosno,
o metodi ciscenja cyber-smeca, kako ljudi ne bi bili izlozeni bas
svakakvim govnima. Nesto slicno daljinskom za TV; nesto ti ide na
jetra pa promijenis program.

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