Did slavery make America?

There was an article about what made America great – a think tank concluded it was the free market, but the reaction on the social media was that slavery and robbery were the more likely cause. The reaction on the social media shows how indoctrinated with Marxism everybody really is.

No, slavery didn’t do shit. The parts of America that kept slaves were backward and poor; the North industrialised exactly because there was no cheap slave labor to compete with the machines, so those were developed, to great effect. A combination of a very simple state structure, patent laws that encouraged invention (one hoped to become rich with patents), and, first and foremost, influx of some of the most competent people from abroad, like Tesla, is what made America. However, it still wasn’t much – the difference between America and Argentina for instance, before the world wars, was insignificant. It’s after the second world war, after Europe was completely ruined, and America essentially robbed it of the intellectual cream of the crop, controlled the world’s monetary system, and had the military upper hand, not to mention the occupying forces on the ground, that America surged up compared to Europe. The reasons are complex, but slavery played zero part in them. Also, the free land didn’t mean that much, or Australia for instance would be in the same ballpark, which it is not. Slavery exists even today in some countries, and how does it affect them? They are without exception among the poorest and least developed countries in the world. So much about the Marxist analysis, stating that if someone is rich, he must have robbed someone. Exactly the opposite seems to be true – where people are allowed to rob others, this interferes with the complexity of processes required for technological and economic development.

  • Grey Eminence

    It could be also said that people are indoctrinated with libertarianism, an Age of “Reason” ideology with a New Age flavor. There is nothing real about any of the axioms of libertarianism; it’s all make-believe, and this detachment from reality (ironically) seems to be the characteristic of every Age of Reason ideology I can think of. Marxists believe that slavery (exploitation) made America great and libertarians think it was free trade (freedom). Marxists believe that the rich steal from the poor, feminists that the patriarchy is stealing their wages, Americans that other countries are stealing their jobs, and libertarians that taxation is theft. Marxists want to rob the rich Robin Hood style, feminists want to overthrow the patriarchy, Americans want to nuke every competitor and libertarians want anarchy.

    I’ve been entertaining a thought for some time on what made America great but the short answer is sort of esoteric and sounds like one of Alex Jones’ conspiracy theories so I’ll put it in a different way: America is rigged. That country looks as if it was artificially made to be the flagship of egalitarianism and it’s being propped up by any means necessary just to stay on top and promote the values of the Age of Reason. There is nothing real about America, it’s all smoke and mirrors. It’s deficient in every way; unable to produce quality population (relying on blood infusion), unable to maintain the economy anywhere near the current level, and the emptiness of the ideologies has been masked by technological progress, temporary prosperity, and antidepressants. Various deux ex machina interventions (such as all the competitors going down in flames) catapulted America high up, and now that it’s going down again it’s hell bent on taking everyone else with it.

    • http://www.danijel.org/ Danijel Turina

      Yeah, I have my own “conspiracy theory” about America, too. It starts with the observation that it seems to be the only country whose propaganda is actually believed by the masses. Then I took a closer look and observed that it was founded by essentially the same group of people who started the French revolution, i.e. the freemasons, the “enlightened ones” (Illuminati), and it suddenly started looking like Satan’s civilisation project, because from that perspective it makes sense how everything American seems to be a mantra of coolness. I don’t think it works the way conspiracy theorists model it, with secret societies; if anything, those secret societies are an instrument and a manifestation of deeper forces. And another curious thing is that when I started to deal with Sanat Kumar directly, America started openly going to hell, because those deeper “tectonic forces” started to malfunction, and now people attached to them behave as if someone is randomly feeding electric current into their brains to the point of a constant epileptic seizure. The hysteria, lack of a higher goal, hatred, tidal waves of mob, it all follows a pattern and matches my understanding of things too well to be dismissed. The pattern is that of a tulpa low on energy.

      • Dario

        Ummm… aren’t you technically in charge of that ‘tulpa’ now?

        • http://www.danijel.org/ Danijel Turina

          No. Technically, it is out of control and needs to run itself down completely; the kind of energy used to establish it, and the mechanisms used in it are inherently sinful and I don’t want to have anything to do with it. Technically I could have claimed it had I decided to approve of Satan’s work and continue it, but as you can imagine, it didn’t appeal to me. 🙂
          There is certain inertia in the system, not dissimilar to a huge flywheel that needs time to wind down to a standstill, or like a minefield that keeps killing people even after the side that put it in place lost the war and no longer exists; until entropy does its thing on the landmines they remain an active hazard.

          • Dario

            I thought that with his death, taking into account the way he gone, all of his property and creation is transferred over under your power. So, basically, that way you could turn off parts of it, or all of it, by will. But yeah, I guess it’s way more complicated than than.

            So what effects do you expect when the fuel comes near the bottom of the tank? Complete madness for the majority of the population?

            And what effects does it produce on you personally while you deal with it? Is it a form of a spiritual nightmare or is it making all kinds of physical and health problems?

            Is a tulpa you are mentioning here the same thing as a global astral field you are mentioning in other places? If so, it basically means that huge astral structure, most of the people are completely or partially reliant on, is collapsing and getting progressively more and more chaotic and mad. For fuck’s sake, it makes me wonder what am I doing here, I should be somewhere else, it’s like sitting on a rotten rope bridge.

            • http://www.danijel.org/ Danijel Turina

              I thought that with his death, taking into account way he’s gone, all of his property and creation is transferred over under your power. So, basically, that way you could turn off parts of it, or all of it, by will.

              My initial expectations were similar; however, they were disproved. I’m not exactly sure how it all works now, but let me make a few examples.

              The first example are the Cambodian mine fields. The army that set them doesn’t exist anymore. The state structure that set them doesn’t exist, either. However, people are still de-mining them, one leg at a time. The new government inherited the minefields, but that doesn’t automatically make them disappear. Significant effort needs to be invested in order to find the mines, render them harmless, and address the consequences of those that already went off.

              The second example is inertia of heritage. Let’s take the October revolution as an example. It turned the entire spiritual sphere of Russia upside down, yet it inherited the inertia of everything that came before. The Moscow subway is designed exactly the same way as it would have been, had it been built by the Czar. That’s because the heritage exists in form of human minds that were formed prior to the revolution. In the same way, communism exists in the minds of people who were brought up in it, and they propagate it by inertia.

              The third example is the concept of a president-elect, or a heir-apparent. Let’s say that in a democracy you had elections, a new president was elected, but the old president’s term still hadn’t expired, and so you have a situation where one apparently has all the power to act but no actual authority (because he was elected out of the office), and the other has apparently no power to act but has all the authority, and there is a period of transition where it’s all in a twilight zone. Also, if you have a dying old king who had a stroke, but is still formally alive, and his heir-apparent who is alive and obviously the next king, you have a similar situation of a gray area during a transition of power.

              The fourth example is absorbtion of an energy structure by a yogi. As he takes another person’s karma onto himself, he suffers the initial blow and works through it gradually. Doing so, he not only absorbs the kalapas of the evil karmic entity, growing his spiritual body by the size of that entity, but also by the energy he expends by transforming evil into good. Essentially, the yogi’s spirit grows by all the kalapas contained in the sinful entity, and also by all the kalapas necessary to raise the specific energy of those kalapas to the baseline level of his spiritual body.

              However, all those images convey only a partial impression, and I feel there’s more to it, something about time, which I don’t understand well.

              So what effects do you expect when the fuel comes near the bottom of the tank? Complete madness for the majority of the population?

              We are there already. It will go beyond that, unless something intervenes and puts us out of our misery. The humans will keep degrading until their physical form reaches the rock bottom of the energy field potential that creates their minds. Essentially, so far they existed on credit, their spiritual states were artificially supported by Sanat Kumar, using the spiritual jewels stolen by deception from saints who were incarnated here and who were destroyed. These reservoirs of sophisticated spiritual energy were plugged into the system as a power source, and provided meaning, false goals on the horizon and similar things that kept souls attracted and attached to this place. As the momentum wears out, the actual souls that are still trapped here will be released from their bondage, and mirage-souls created as an artefact of the physical body that whirled up some astral substance together, will dissipate.

              You can see this as a stark difference between the coherent people who are scratching their heads asking what’s going on, gradually losing illusions about this place, and the masses who are completely insane, devoid of any virtue and rabidly looking for violence and destruction of all things.

              And what effects does it produce on you personally while you deal with it? Is it a form of a spiritual nightmare or is it making all kinds of physical and health problems?

              All of the above. My health is fucked; nasty headaches, heart problems, hormonal disbalance, insomnia, weight gain, and God knows what not; essentially what you get when bad astral pressure is crushing the physical body through prana, influencing the biological interface points. Also, the spiritual side of it is what one would expect from absorbing all kinds of godless evil. As I said, my condition is not something one would wish upon oneself, that’s for sure. On the positive side, I grew more powerful.

              Is a tulpa you are mentioning here the same thing as the global astral field you are mentioning in other places? If so, it basically means that huge astral structure, most of the people are completely or partially reliant on, is collapsing and getting progressively more and more chaotic and mad.

              Essentially, yes. Also, the Western civilisation makes up the vast majority of the “noosphere”, so for all practical purposes that’s what we’re talking about. If you’ve been reading about tulpas and how they act when their energy runs out, you’ll see that the phenomenon matches what we are perceiving on a global level – it gets less coherent, less subtle, more evil, degrades to the more basic emotions in the lowest octave.

      • Grey Eminence

        looking like Satan’s civilisation project

        Yeah, that was the short answer I had in mind. But since I don’t “see” things “up there” the way you do it’s more difficult for me to know whether I’m on point or typing something that’s batshit crazy which is why your feedback is very useful.

        As for human factors, I don’t know anything about secret societies except what Hollywood put in movies, but now that you mentioned those there’s something else that’s been bothering me lately and I’m curious how that looks from your perspective. There are some things you wrote earlier about Jews which sounded interesting (“Your God promised he’ll eventually elevate you…”). Now, I do give credit where credit is due, so I’m not disagreeing with the fact that Jews have a high IQ and are over-represented in certain fields. The problematic part is the other side of the equation, and the more I dig the worse it gets. Here I have to put a disclaimer because I guess otherwise I end up looking like a misogynist (despite the fact that I socialize more with the opposite gender), anti-Semite and whatever else (although I am a bit of a bigot): I never cared much about Jews one way or another and I don’t have bad personal experiences with them. My Jewish neighbour greets me when he sees me and vice versa. That being said, Jews seem to be overwhelmingly leftists, and consistently so over the centuries (I assume partly because they were always outsiders). It’s not just that Marx and Soros were/are Jews, but for example after Bolshevik Revolution Jews were the majority in every committee. In the US they also seem to be over-represented in every leftist ideological branch and so my question is what is a rough net value if we take into account civilization-destroying efforts?

        the only country whose propaganda is actually believed by the masses

        A slight digression – I recently watched a YouTube video titled “Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul”. It’s not that I agree 100% with everything in the video, but it’s quite an interesting angle.

        • http://www.danijel.org/ Danijel Turina

          Well, the overwhelming number of extreme individualists and anti-state anarchists also seem to be Jewish, as Molyneux demonstrated in his recent video, so this leads to the conclusion that Jews are represented significantly among the thinking people and will be over-represented on all sides of the political spectrum as a result; you will get both Marx and Ayn Rand. I personally dislike the anti-semitic conspiracy theories because the Jews are always a soft target compared to the real villains, such as the Muslims who actually killed more people and destroyed more civilisations throughout history than all other villains combined, and attacking soft targets is a favourite pastime of cowards.
          Yes, I’m sure there were Jewish conspiracies that had nasty consequences; for instance, I find it quite probable that the Jews in fact did make a secret agreement with Britain during the WW1 to use their influence in the American newspapers to print propaganda that will sway the American people towards getting into the war, and in return they will get Palestine. As America got into the war, the tide turned against Germany, which then surrendered, suffered grave consequences and, since the Jews were recognised as a culprit in this, the animosity rose against them, making Hitler’s arguments credible and rising him into the position of power, with known consequences. Essentially, the Jews control enough of the media and finances to actually be able to pull things off, but as they do, it doesn’t necessarily end well for them. So, yes, I believe there are influential Jews who are more than capable and willing to do very nasty things, and sometimes this can indeed have global consequences, but Jews are far from being a singular entity with a singular goal-set.