X-Ftn-To: Majorinc, Kazimir

kmajor@public.srce.hr (Majorinc, Kazimir) wrote:
>|U krajnjoj liniji, da se naslutiti da nirvana
>|predstavlja stanje krajnjeg ispunjenja i ostvarenja, a ne krajnjeg
>|nistavila i nepostojanja. Da je slucaj ovo drugo, nitko ne bi bio
>|toliko glup da se bavi buddhizmom, osim nekolicine samodestruktivaca.
>
>Ne, jer za Buddhu nema atmana, nema niceg vjecnog u covjeku, i

Ako nema subjekta, tko pati? Sto je patnja? Ako se reinkarniraju
samskare, sto je onda stvarnost? Naime stvarnost je moguce osjetiti,
moguce je osjetiti trajne i zbiljske kvalitete. Povisenjem stanja
svijesti, nezbiljske komponente gube snagu a one zbiljske se
naglasavaju. U covjeku doista nema niceg vjecnog. Covjek je projekcija
nezbiljskog na zbilju. E, tu zbilju treba spoznati. A onda kad to
shvatis, shvatit ces da su od te zbilje nacinjeni i Bog, i dusa, i
svijet, i samskare. I puno toga ce Ti se objasniti, sto Ti je sada
nejasno. I Tvoje lutanje u mraku ce se okoncati.

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X-Ftn-To: Majorinc, Kazimir

kmajor@public.srce.hr (Majorinc, Kazimir) wrote:
>|Pa ako zelis da on to napravi, ucini ovako.
>|Svaki dan sljedecih pet godine se tri sata dnevno moli Bogu za to sto
>|upravo hoces!
>|I JA ti garantiram da ce ti se molitva ostvariti, a za sto, za pisljivih
>|pet godina moljenja.
>|Vidis to ce biti dovoljno, ako ne vjerujes, eto isprobaj.
>|>
>
>Osobno, ne vjerujem da to funkcionira. Ali, ako funkcionira,
>mogao bi on to i bez molitve, pa da nas svih postedi te mucne
>reinkarnacije. Zasto to nije ucinio?

Za koga? Za one koji su toliko obuzeti sobom da ne vide potrebu ni za
cim osim za zadovoljavanjem svojih prohtjeva?
Osim toga, molitva je cin kojim Ti priznajes da Ti Bog treba i kojim
ga ukljucujes u svoj zivot. Molitva ne daje ama bas nista Bogu, ona
mijenja Tebe. Nije se Bog odrekao Tebe. Ti si se odrekao njega.

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X-Ftn-To: Domagoj Klepac

Domagoj Klepac wrote:
>On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 23:03:34 +0100, "Zoran Znidari?"
> bravely stated:
>>Ne bas, mi poniremo u sebe i osijecamo apsolutni bitak. Mi se ne bavimo
>>vjerom u A.b. vec ga dozivljavamo u sebi.
>
>A sto bi to trebao biti "apsolutni bitak"? Naime, bitak je bitak, nema
>apsolutnog i relativnog bitka... :)

To je tako rekao Maharishi, a buduci da je on jako duhovan i iz
Indije, to mora biti istina. :)

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Marko wrote:
>> >:))) Mislio sam da ne volis nikakav vid Zombia. :)))
>>
>> Ozbiljno, ako je netko nadisao astral i slicna sranja od razina,
>> razlika izmedju njegove i Bozje volje se gubi, dakle takav zeli raditi
>> samo ono sto bi i Bog zelio raditi na njegovom mjestu. Zato velim da
>> oni vise nemaju svoje ciljeve, nego im je jedini cilj vrsiti Bozju
>> volju. To ne da nije zombifikacija, to je totalni cool.
>>
>Hm, da "njegovi" se ciljevi "prociscuju" i stoga djeluju kao ciljevi
>Bozji, jer "on" postaje sve slicniji njemu. Stoji! Prihvacam.

:)
Inace, ispricavam se svima zbog kasnjenja, zadnjih dana sam toliko
zatrpan da jedva stignem procitati poruke, ali ne stignem odgovarati.
Sumnjam da ce se nesto bitno promijeniti i slijedeci tjedan.

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"Ron & Keli Conroy" wrote:
>Lord Krsna says very clearly in the Bagavad Gita that 'one may offer Him
>with love & devotion a leaf,flower,water,) or vegetarian foodstuffs.

:) I knew you'll come to this. This is the thing which Prabhupada used
to quote as some sort of proof that Krsna thinks vegetarianism is
cool. But it proves other things. First, that there are no other, more
applicable quotes he could use. Second, that the entire vegetarian
issue has very little sastric background.
The logical interpretation of this sloka (Bg 9,26) would be that if
one offers any little thing from the pure heart to God, it will be
accepted. And indeed, the following sloka confirms it: "Whatever you
do, whatever you eat, whatever you sacrifice, whatever austerities you
engage yourself in, do it as a sacrifice to Me."

Whatever you do, whatever you eat. Enough said.

>You may
>eat what you like & we'll follow Lord Krsna & Srila Prabhupada s
>instructions on this matter & all others . Not your specs.

:) My "speculations" have more vedic background than Prabhupada's.
Besides, it has been clearly proven that the Vedas advocate meat
eating. So, if you want to prove that vegetarianism is better than
eating meat, you should find authorities other than the Vedas or the
Bible.

>Slaughtering
>inocent animals & eating them leads to HELL only...

It depends. It's a very self-serving image that you have, that the
fact that you're a vegetarian gives you the right to preach
self-righteousness to the world. When you become tempted to do that,
remember that Hitler was a vegetarian, and that Jesus was a carnivore.

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X-Ftn-To: Josip Jolic

Josip Jolic wrote:
>jedne regionalne stranke; te taj isti naleti na moja pitanja u stilu:
> 1. Koliko je vrijeme rotacije Jupitera?
> 2. Koliko je vrijeme revolucije istog?

E sad, da mi naletis s ovim, ne bih ni ja znao napamet, morao bih
pogledati. Ostala pitanja su pljuga.

>LJUDI, ZAVRŠITE SREDNJU ŠKOLU. TO ?E BITI DOSTA. Potom ova konfa seli u
>"znanost".

Nije bas tak.

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enrique wrote:
>The most accurate article ever written about spiritual bunnies. You have
>captured the core of todays institutionalized spiritual superficiality.
>This is to the Spiritual Wave what the movie "Wag the dog" is to the
>american presidential institution.

:) Well, I subscribed to this NG, started reading and observed my
reactions. The article was the result. ;)

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>I would like to try some visualizations to help these problems along
>while I am being treated.

The healing exists on different levels. For a "normal" person, it is
best to go through the heart chakra.

Step one.
First, you need to feel in love. Remember someone you love, some event
dear to you, something very nice. Keep your mind on it until you feel
a warm glow in your chest. This means that you have activated the
heart chakra.

Step two.
You feel that warmth, filling your entire body. Feel the warmth in
your knee (or whatever problematic part of your body). Feel the warmth
and love nurturing and healing it.

Step three.
Breathe love and peace through your knee (or whatever is the problem).
Breathe love and warmth in, feel it there, feel it in your body. Now
exhale that love and peace through that part; radiate love as you
exhale; it's important to inhale and exhale _through_ that part, to
keep your focus on it. Focus on the problematic parts first, then
repeat the exercise on all other parts of your body - arms, legs,
genitals, anus, belly, neck and head.

Step four.
Feel yourself as healed and loved. Keep that feeling with you, and
don't let it go.


Do this exercise at least twice a day until you are healthy, and when
you are, don't stop; instead, go into deeper practice. If you are
interrupted during practice, start from the beginning, don't try to
start from where you were interrupted, because you won't make it, and
you'll just be frustrated. Instead, go slow and steady.
Here, I hope this helps. :)

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"Zoran Znidari?" wrote:
>Inace sluzbene stranice TM-organizacije su
>
>http://tm.cro.tripod.com
>
>Posjetite ih, pa napisite svoje misljenje o njima.

Mozda ce biti zanimljivo i ovo:
http://www.trancenet.org/groups/tm.shtml
http://www.trancenet.org/index2.shtml
http://www.trancenet.org/research/

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"Ron & Keli Conroy" wrote:
>now now boys

Why, let him talk, he already proved everything I said about him, let
him continue. He proves my points about ISKCON better than ten lawyers
could. We just need to let Jahnu speak, and nobody with brains will
ever join the HK movement. Let him fantasize about violence, murder
and other nice attributes of his god. He will save people the time
needed to find out what ISKCON is really about. Murders, rape,
violence, perversions, abuse and lies. It is enough for me to even
talk to him for a while, and I start acquiring his attributes, as Jan
was kind enough to observe. I learned my lesson here, no more
wallowing in the mud, because I'll become a pig myself.

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