X-Ftn-To: Vatafu Valerica

"Vatafu Valerica" wrote:
>> first they had to get rid of these habits before I could consider teaching
>> them. But they answered me with the same words I have heard from hundreds
>of
>> others since--that they feel so much more "aware" through drugs, that they
>are
>> so much more spiritual...
>...
>
> Also thank you for that Outcast, also I agree fully with Ravi Shankar.

And, although nobody asked me, I'll drop in and express my opinion.
According to my experience with drug users (no, I never had the need
to take any of this stuff, but I can perfectly well observe the effect
that it had on others), drugs cause severe imbalance in the
pranically-physical layer of the brain; different drugs cause
different effects, and I observed people who were using marijuana,
Heroin and XTC. XTC creates a fluctuation in the brain which disturbs
its ability to perceive and conduct higher levels of consciousness. It
also damages memory and concentration. Marijuana causes a similar
effect, and it dampens human ability to have a spiritual experience;
however, it creates a severe disturbance in the pranic body, which can
"supercharge" the astral body and lead to a distorted perception.
Heroin is the worst thing I've seen, ever. It destroys the brain, and
the cerebral prana looks like it's been processed with a blender;
those people have a dull look in their eyes and I fear that their
brains are fully destroyed. Unfortunately, I had to see it on two guys
with whom I went to high school; before, they were bright kids, and
now they're walking zombies, even after they've unhooked themselves
from the drug.
LSD causes very strange and harmful effects, and also seems to destroy
the human ability to perceive and manifest higher consciousness.
Not to forget alcohol: in extremely small amounts it can even be
beneficial - and I mean _small_: one extremely small spoon of cherry
brandy, for instance, just enough to cause a light warmth in the body,
but not to produce and mental effect, can reduce some inhibitions and
can sometimes be helpful. Anything more than that puts serious strain
to the brain and gradually destroys the higher spiritual and
intellectual abilities; it kills the brightness.
I never saw a person who used cocaine, so I don't know what it does,
but I don't believe it's much better than for instance XTC or heroin.

To sum it up, it seems that virtually _all_ drugs cause damage, and
are an obstacle in spiritual life, while, simultaneously, people who
use them seem to be in complete denial, claiming that drugs help them.
I actually know the effect; when I have a mobile phone, I constantly
convince myself that it's useful and good, but as soon as I get rid of
it, I become aware of the fact that the damn thing radiates like
Chernobyl and strains my brain, and that I'm much better off without
it.

Having that in mind, some people are so stuck in their own personal
virtual reality, and limited perception of the world, that some drugs,
that distort and break this mould, can actually be useful, at a short
run. But, meeting an enlightened person can also break moulds, without
a side effect of fucking up your brain.

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X-Ftn-To: Inlight1

inlight1@aol.com (Inlight1) wrote:
>Betty,
>You have discovered the problem. There are no real "certifited yoga teachers."
>That non-sense is just a business.

You got this part right...

>Since the many aspects of Yoga are the spiritual disciplines of Hinduism, find
>a qualified Hindu teacher and you will learn the real thing and not even be
>charged for it!

...it's a pitty you had to blow it in the next sentence. :)
I think we would all agree that Jesus, Buddha or Milarepa weren't
Hindus, and that they were pretty darn good teachers.

BTW, have you ever heard about a thing called guru daksina? It's a
Hindu custom, according to which a student, having finished his
education, rewards the guru with money or some other form of material
wealth.
Ooops, but that's OK, coz they're Hindu, and Hindu money is better
than the western kind, coz it's all Aryan and purified by tapasya. ;>

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X-Ftn-To: pam&kelly

jellyjam@wwnet.comq (pam&kelly) wrote:

>i thought yoga made people nice?

Who said he practiced it? ;) This guy is a Hare Krishna, and a
wonderful specimen of his kind, too. Completely ruined energetic
system, pumps energy from violent abuse, survives on hatred and
anger... His "guru" was actually trown out of the cult for sexual
abuse or something. I'm not easily shocked, but talking with this guy
on alt.religion.vaisnava some time ago actually did manage that.

>On Tue, 08 May 2001 10:42:48 GMT, chekitan@bahnhof.se (Jahnu) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 06 May 2001 21:40:46 +0200, Danijel Turina
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I thought about it and I made a part of my book public... maybe you'll
>>>find it useful:
>>
>>Useful? You gotta be kidding. YOU are useless, how could you write a
>>useful book?

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X-Ftn-To: Domagoj Klepac

Domagoj Klepac wrote:
>>> Interpretacija pjesme vise ipak govori o slusatelju nego o pjesniku.
>>> "Quidquid recipitur, ad modum recipientis recipitur" (Sto se prima, prima se
>>> na primateljev nacin)
>>
>>To nimalo nece poboljsati recentne Tadijanoviceve haikue koji su, rekao to ja
>>ili ne, cisto sranje.
>
>TADIJANOVIC JE NETEMATSKI NA KONFI!!!

Zapravo, nije. Govorilo se o relativnosti spoznaje, a Jelly je samo
ilustrirao poantu primjerom u kojem nesto moze biti objektivno lose,
bez obzira na stav promatraca.

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X-Ftn-To: Sinisa Knezevic

"Sinisa Knezevic" wrote:
>>Mislim...copis neki trik i onda mases
>> s njim u nadi da ces spasiti svoju iluziju koja se odjednom pocela lomiti
>> na komadice. Ajde kad se skuliras i sredis cut cemo se. Za mene je ova
>> rasprava gotova.
>
>Curice daj se sredi, i ne vristi tamo gdje ne treba, vidi se da nisi bila u
>vojsci i ne znas kako se zajebavaju razvodnici, a u tome upravo uzivam.

Kretenu glupi. Zena je potpuno u pravu, 100%, a Ti si vragu otisao na
racune. S obzirom na to kako si se pokazao i kolika si svinja, to sto
ces najebati me uopce ne zalosti.

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X-Ftn-To: Radoslav Prica

Stovanje Felix!

felix@inet.hr (Radoslav Prica) wrote:
> Da.. i kad se planiras prestaviti imenom i prezimenom?

Je, pa da striceki u bijelom dodju po njega. :))

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X-Ftn-To: Apostol

"Apostol" wrote:
>Otac Rufus Pereira je inace i podpredsjednik Medjunarodnog saveza egzorcista
>pri Katolickoj crkvi. Turina, mozda bi ti trebao koji tretman kod njega, a
>ako ne tretman, onda sasvim sigurno mali razgovor :))))

Ne vjerujem da bi mu razgovor koristio, tvrdokorna je to budala. On
misli da u ime Isusa istjeruje demone, jednako kao sto ti i tebi
slicni mislite da ste Boga u dzep stavili. Zalosno.

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Radenko Kosic wrote:
>Ne.
> Treba ih pronaci i zatvoriti u zatvor ili u bolnicu.
>Naravno, neku goru od Jankomira. Vrapche? Never been there.
> Where have You been?
>
>U svemu je Bog. Bog je Duh koji zhivi u Bozhjim ljudima.
>Bozhji ljudi nekad zavrshe i u Jankomiru. Bog je i u Jankomiru.
>Iz Jankomira se bolje vidi Internet, Wild Wild World i sve drugo.
>(Experience)

Jebote, ova konfa je po kolicini ludjaka pocela podsjecati na
alt.religion.* hijerarhiju.

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X-Ftn-To: Jasin Zujovic

jasin@bigfoot.com (Jasin Zujovic) wrote:
>> I failed to find neither a translator nor lector
>> to improve upon my enthralling skill of quill, awkward as that might
>> sound. Sinful would it be to say that I was also the cheapest option,
>> but, alas, true. :)
>
>:D Pises ko Jack Vance u _Dying Earth_.

:) Ja bi radije kao Tolkien, ali sto se moze. :))

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X-Ftn-To: SLAP

"SLAP" wrote:
>Ako vec dajes do znanja smisao evolucije duse,njenog razvoja od nizeg prema
>visem,sve je to tek druga polovica price o reinkarnaciji,odnosno nedostaje
>tumacenje kako je dusa dosla u to "nize " stanje .

Dusa kroz fizicku materiju evoluira. Ne postoji nikakav pad, radi se o
sustavnom opterecenju sa svrhom jacanja, nesto kao dizanje utega. Da
bi se uzdigao visoko moras se spustiti nisko, i kroz najvise
opterecenje se ponovo uzdici. Cilj je kroz materiju gledati Boga.

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